From: Ben Santer To: Melissa Free Subject: Re: [Fwd: sorry to take your time up, but really do need a scrub of this singer/christy/etc effort] Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:52:42 -0800 Reply-to: santer1@llnl.gov Cc: Phil Jones , carl mears , Karl Taylor , Tom Wigley , Tom Wigley , "Thorne, Peter" , Steven Sherwood , John Lanzante , "'Dian J. Seidel'" , Frank Wentz , Steve Klein , Leopold Haimberger , peter gleckler Dear Melissa, No, this would not be dire. What is dire is Douglass et al.'s willful neglect of any observational datasets that do not support their arguments. Recall that our 2005 Science paper presented information from all observational datasets available to us at that time, even from datasets that showed large differences relative to the model data. We did not present results from RSS alone. With best regards, Ben Melissa Free wrote: > One further question about the Douglass paper: What about the > implications of a real model-observation difference for upper-air > trends? Is this really so dire? > -Melissa > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin D. Santer Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory P.O. Box 808, Mail Stop L-103 Livermore, CA 94550, U.S.A. Tel: (925) 422-2486 FAX: (925) 422-7675 email: santer1@llnl.gov ----------------------------------------------------------------------------